Watch Out for Toolbags Like This Guy!

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This guy is GROSS. Do NOT work for him and look out for people like him!
Check out what he wrote about "How to find an artist"


" How to find an artist:

I recommend looking through art sites such as Deviantart for an artist which suits your taste, or any other site that has a decent art community such as Newgrounds. There's a few reasons you want to find an artist this way. First of all, they're cheaper. These guys aren't used to making a lot of money for their work so they will be more appreciative of the chance even if they are being payed slightly less than what professionals are payed. Second of all, they're better. The quality of art you can find through this method is pretty amazing, and the vast amount of artists guarantee you will find something that suits your tastes and needs. Unless you have a specific price you want to pay in mind, ask THEM what they are willing to charge for the project. This usually causes people to give offers that are lower than what you normally pay, and will make them happy.

How NOT to find an artist:

Do not look for either professional artists, or an artist that has done a lot of game design work in the past. The problem with artists who do this as their full time job is that they're usually expensive. Compared to what you can find through art sites, these guys tend to cost an arm and a leg. Artists who have done a lot of game design work are also bad for a similar reason, they know how much flash games can earn so they expect a decent percentage of the profit. It's ridiculous to pay something 50% of a sponsorship when you can find someone else who would accept $500 for the same job. When your game sells for $10,000, the difference in cost is a multitude of 10.

Artist payment:

Make it clear to whomever you hire that they will not be payed until ALL the work is completed, unless it is completed by a predefined date, and unless it matches or exceeds expectations. Sometimes I have an issues getting all of these things, but if you give someone a job they're expected to treat it as so even if they're just a hobbyist. Paying prior to the completion of the project is a bad idea for several reasons. Only paying for the finished work encourages the artist to finish their job faster, if you pay up front the artist has no motivation to finish quickly. Similarly, if you pay up front the artist could disappear and you may never get what you payed for!

Keep them in the dark:

This relates back to what I talked about earlier. If an artist knows how much their artwork will increase the value of the game they will then feel they deserve that amount of money. This is not how a market economy works, you hire whoever is able to do the best job for the lowest amount of money, anything else is a loss of money on your end.

Timelines:

Give strict dates about when you need the art done (even if you don't) and give consequences by deduction in pay if the art is not completed by the date. Unless the person you've hired happens to be very punctual, you will need strong motivation to make sure they finish the art in a timely manner. Try to only hire people ages 18+ (I may sound a little hypocritical here), kids are generally less reliable and have more IRL things come up that they can't control. I've had several bad experiences with this. "

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Two things that never cease to amaze me.

1.) How poorly artist are at marketing themselves, and not understanding how to sell their products/abilities. I'd NEVER do work for anyone that I'm not getting some percentage upfront. Wouldn't even cross my mind. Things like a simple business class go a long way for protecting yourself.

2.) People simply don't want to pay what something is worth. If your air conditioner breaks down in your house, or you have issues with your plumbing, when the repair guy shows up, you WILL pay him $75 for the house call just to look at the problem, even if it takes them 5 minutes to fix the problem. Now, for an artist to do a few idea sketches for a larger project? Is his time not worth the money? Then they want to walk away with the free sketches and give them to someone else who will do it for cheaper. Absolutely incredible.

I can't fault people for wanting to get the most for their money. I do it all the time. But I find it absolutely disgusting that many people take advantage of artists to do "free" work for them. Just because we can draw stuff doesn't mean we've got a bunch of free time on our hands to just crank something out.

Sorry. Rant over. Artists: protect yourselves.